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Post by relmitos on Sept 19, 2011 14:55:16 GMT -5
Let me think......Minby could possibly be the godfather like you think. Even though Td is a godfather, I wouldn't put it past Weldar to make multiple of them being as there's obviously more then just one doctor. We might HAVE to lynch him if that "he's a resilient little bugger" scan that DF got means that he's not night-killable. That would explain our night kill not working.
For Sah and Eisen, I would believe Sah to be more likely of the two to be EloE or mafia because Sah's actually posting elsewhere on the forum, while I haven't seen Eisen even logged into the forum. That's not to say he's not playing on a side forum, but I am more inclined to think it is Sah.
Q could be an easy lynch target, indeed. I'm starting to think he's a survivor of sorts, but I honestly think it's probably a bad idea to leave him be for to long. ALWAYS be wary of Q, I don't care what he's doing or what his role has indicated. Good lord though, his prattling and bantering of killing Weldar is amazing. I'm beginning to wonder if we actually should do that or not. On one hand, we may have to lynch Weldar to win and if we're the only group left, Weldar may just smite us because at that point we'll have no one but Weldar to lynch anyways. On the other hand though, lynching Weldar might actually give just Q the win, and get the rest of us killed. I'm quite worried about that, honestly.
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Post by raya on Sept 19, 2011 15:02:53 GMT -5
That's one thing I've been wondering too; if Q wins by getting the host lynched. Being bonkers-insane is a good way of covering it up.
Even if in the end it's just us and Q providing we're all still here we may be alright. Since he's not voting on regular lynches himself he has a maximum of 2 votes (Relm's double vote). We still win through weight of numbers. Which is why our biggest threat is whoever has the kill power.
I'll have a think tomorrow when my mind is a lot clearer. I think with a push we could get Minby, Q or Eisen lynched. Minby I can call out his Spont Mode and the fact nobody else has done it (when he claimed it was an action), Eisen because Minby only went Spont Mode on the day he was active, hence he has the power. I'll decide tomorrow. In the meantime, what do you think?
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Post by relmitos on Sept 19, 2011 15:12:44 GMT -5
You could possibly call that out, but Minby only being able to Spont Mode Go because Eisen said something is a long shot. Though, it would be HILARIOUS, I can see it now.
"Eisen was Spontaneous Combustion. You are a crazy madman, with a mode of playing being labeled simply as "Spont Mode" for just rambling and spewing out batshit crazy nonsense. As such, your power is to target one person and have them just go absolutely nuts in every post in a single day phase."
As for who to actually lynch, we can really just lynch anyone we want. I'm leery of lynching Q again, and lynching Eisen seems pointless to me. If anything killing Minby would lessen the number of votes during the day. I would say get Minby lynched, but if you think Eisen would be the better choice, or even Sah, we could do that to.
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Post by raya on Sept 20, 2011 12:13:47 GMT -5
Oh Sah, that was brilliant. I've attacked him over his voting for Weldar. Hopefully we can get him lynched today. Out of Minby, Sah and Eisen I'm sure the last mafia/ELoE member is amongst them, so we have a 2/3 chance of getting one if we hang him.
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Post by relmitos on Sept 20, 2011 15:38:14 GMT -5
Thank you Sah, for giving us an easy lynch target today. More and more I'm disliking the idea of lynching Weldar though, with how hard Q is fighting to lynch him.
So, it occurs to me. DF, Td, you both need to vote on Sah before the day is over. Why, well, if Q smarts up and vote steals my vote, and makes me vote on myself, I hang unless you three all vote on Sah, then there's only a 50/50 chance I hang. Because if he steals my vote and puts it on any of us actually, that's 3 votes because he's also going to vote on whoever he targets for the self vote.
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Post by td260 on Sept 20, 2011 18:52:37 GMT -5
i'll get on that.
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Post by td260 on Sept 20, 2011 20:08:26 GMT -5
actually, no, sorry- Q approached me, and I'm trying to remain on his "not suspicious" list, so I'll be voting with him... It's far better to have someone who's positioned to backstab everyone anyway.
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Post by relmitos on Sept 20, 2011 20:27:13 GMT -5
What do you mean, approached you? Sent you a PM? If so, what'd he tell you?
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Post by td260 on Sept 20, 2011 20:59:51 GMT -5
uh, PM- told me that I'd want to see what happens, and that he could easily start gunning for me.
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Post by relmitos on Sept 20, 2011 21:34:34 GMT -5
Of course he'd tell you that you would want to see what happens, heh, with how it supports his goal and what not. With Minby's vote on Sah it looks fine for now though, as it's 3/4 Weldar/Sah
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Post by relmitos on Sept 21, 2011 11:30:20 GMT -5
Alright, so far so good. The players that are left that we still have to kill are as follows;
Minby Quaetam Eisenbeißer
This narrows down our choices a bit. For our next night kill however, we know that Q is out as he can't be night killed, and any attempts we make at night killing him will probably kill one of us at this point. That leaves Minby and Eisen, however, with Minby having this scan going for him:
Minby is Avlanche, a townie. He appears to be a fairly resilient little bugger.
That really only leaves Eisen as our night kill, as I suspect Minby is immune to night kills as well.
We do, however, need to discuss our next plan of action for the day phase, as it's down to two last people that aren't us. Q and Minby/Sah, unless our night kill doesn't work.....again. Knock on wood. We could get rid of Minby as that would be the obvious choice, but I'm loathe to let Q live longer then he needs to. Even still, however, if he's also lynch immune (for crying out loud) it would waste a perfectly good lynch we can, most likely, manipulate. Also, I'm worried. Q's not stupid, he's probably going to think that there's a hidden vote steal or a double vote out there since the votes were "tied" at 3-3 and Sah hung anyways because it was really 3-4. Hoping he doesn't pick up on that and just thinks he was unfortunate, but whatever.
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Post by darkfalco on Sept 21, 2011 13:12:02 GMT -5
So I caneither try to rescan Q or scan eisen...there is a chance that rescanning might actually give us info on Q this time...what do you guys think?
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Post by raya on Sept 21, 2011 13:19:05 GMT -5
We're actually in a pretty difficult situation right now. Goddamn Sah being a cultist. If what Sah says is true (and I don't see why it shouldn't be) the cult had a killing power but only took out one player. The rest of the kills were foiled. I imagine I was a target at least once, but they couldn't have gone for me 5 nights in a row. That means their attempts must have been roleblocked, doctored or against nightkill-immune targets. Sounds like a lot of coincidences, but the fact I'm still here is proof they can happen That means the killing power from last night is still there. One thing that puzzles me is Sah's claim of his fellows turning up as a different alignment on death. Although our scan of Surge supports that it seems a bit odd there was no Coalition alignment. So it's down to Eisen or Minby, since we can't kill Q. Q, when you're reading this post-game, FUCK YOU. The game could very well hinge on who we go for. We know the ELoE, the mafia and the aslyum are still out there, so they all must be one of them. I'll willing to wager that Minby is the last mafian. For a start it seems odd that the Avalanche role would be in the ELoE, plus the fact they chose Surge as the target. It was the most logical choice, hence it must be an active player. This does however mean I'm a massive target tonight, since they'll probably know by now they can't kill Q. Hopefully they tried to kill me earlier and had it fail, so might go safe and try someone else. There's the problem of the 'resilient little bugger' comment. This may mean that he's immune to non-lynches. Or that he can survive the first attack. So here's our dilemma: - I am very likely to die tonight - Minby is likely mafia - Minby is possibly night kill immune - Eisen is less of a threat but a more guaranteed kill. Do I risk it and go for Minby? Or should td go for Eisen? If we kill Eisen and I die we still have four votes (well, technically two, because since td is a goddamn pussy Q will know that Relm likely has the double vote). Then if Q gets lynched in the day we should (hopefully) win with three of us vs Minby. If we attack Minby but he lives we're in trouble. It's 3vs3 and a lot of arguing will need to be done to get either of the three lynched. Especially since I can't lead the attack and cover for you guys =/ If we were certain we can kill Minby he'd be the best option. But if there's a chance he may live the best option is Eisen. Thoughts?
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Post by relmitos on Sept 21, 2011 14:40:38 GMT -5
After pondering over it a little bit, I do believe the following situations can occur at this point.
1.) We kill Eisen and none of us die, that leaves us four against Q and Minby and unless Q screws us over we can easily out vote Minby, as it's 4v2.
2.) We kill Minby, but he doesn't die even with Raya's unblockable kill. That leaves us at a more dangerous 3v4, assuming none of us die.
3.) We kill Eisen, but one of us dies. That would leave us 3v2
4.) We kill Minby, but he doesn't die, and one of us dies, that leaves us 3v3, which is not good to begin with.
I'm really thinking we should probably kill Eisen just for safety's sake, but the idea of leaving Minby alive worries me greatly. I'm not sure what we should do, as such. Probably SHOULD just kill Eisen and be done with it though.
EDIT: oh, while I'm thinking about it. Raya, just in the event that you don't make it through the night, which do you believe would be the better course of action? Try to get Q hung or get Minby hung? We can't night kill Q, but we can't night kill Minby either apparantly. I'd lean more towards Minby myself, since he probably has a killing power and Q doesn't, but Q being Q and all.
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Post by raya on Sept 21, 2011 15:02:32 GMT -5
Might be easier to lynch Q. If Minby does turn out to be mafia he'll gladly jump on the bandwagon to lynch Q. Even if we can't night kill him the following day they'll be two left versus him, thus he can be lynched.
If we go for Minby instead he won't vote for himself, Q can't and he'll probably screw up the votes. Probably best to get Q lynched then.
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