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Post by raya on Sept 11, 2011 3:37:56 GMT -5
If it all goes how you just described we'd then best prey on the rest of the players rather than the power players, otherwise it's going to be susicious it's just me still alive. But yes, DRTJR is likely to hang tomorrow, which will give us a nice extra day. If Surge survives and he turns up doc I'll go for him tomorrow night.
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Post by darkfalco on Sept 12, 2011 12:44:33 GMT -5
We have cults apparently..."SurgePox is Requiem, a cultist. He seems to hold limitless potential for power but is limited by the whims of fate." we need him dead....I wonder if he maybe enlisted the doc into his cult? Would make sense as to why our kill didn't go through.
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Post by raya on Sept 12, 2011 13:29:17 GMT -5
That was a pretty good night phase for us, all things considering. We all survived and though Smash and Surge are still around we got rid of Avalanche and Fed. Fed wasn't a threat at present, but he's pretty troublesome in the endgame.
That sounds a bit worrying about Surge, DF. I considered the possibility of a fifth group since we've managed to hide ourselves, but thought it was unlikely. The worrying thing is though, if there *is* a cult, with no townies how are they recruiting? Could it be anyone who isn't a mafian?
It sounds like Surge's power may be a bit of a daredevil: he can use any power but there's a chance of failure. If so he may have tried to protect himself rather have recruited a doctor.
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Post by darkfalco on Sept 12, 2011 13:44:15 GMT -5
i had a power like that once, but i had to state the use of said power within a post in the thread. that was Q's game. so i could be doctor but i'd have to mention something like "perhaps we can doctor him in the night" or some such. could be subtle. pretty sure it was weldar who figured out my role and tried to help me haha. but yeah i think this one is probably more chance based. but he needs to die if he has such a strong role though.
also realized...if we do have a cult than snake very well could have been killed by them with the power that surge apparently has.
"The first thing Snake noticed when he awoke was the sweet sweet flames. But these flames would not burn, all they did was illuminate the room revealing rows of dark robed figures, faces of obscured by hoods. An arcane chanting ran through the crowd, transforming from but a murmur into an echoing roar. The flames suddenly seemed to small and insignificant next to the darkness surrounding him. A figure stepped out of the crowd his dress was no different to the others but they seemed to treat him with more respect. He reached into his robes and pulled out an obsidian blade, At this point Snake realised he was chained to an altar, the gravity of the situation set it. He struggled against his bonds in vain and the knife weilding figure glided ever closer. As the figured reached him all will to fight left, he lay on the altar, unmoving, defeated. He watched in horror as the knife plunged down into his chest and tore open a gash. The pain exploded, his vision began to fade. In his last moments he saw the figure plunge an arm into his chest, he felt the grip of fingers against his heart, as the world faded away from Snake the figured grabbed hard and pulled."
also reread this:
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Post by relmitos on Sept 12, 2011 14:41:34 GMT -5
I personally just took that as Surge trying to defend me saying "Look, guys, Smash's reasoning is such BS, no point in listening to him".
I do vote we kill him tonight.
Though, something I do wish to stress, not that we can really do anything about it. Again there was only two kills last night, and it could easily just be us being paranoid, but uh....better hope that Avalanche was the one with killing powers targeting Raya if anyone, with that whole "I can't protect her again tonight." thing. As such I kind of do think we should have Raya go in with that unblockable kill.
Surge's power sounds more like a chance based thing to me, but whatever, heh.
Edit: ooooooo, that would've sucked if DRTJR can indeed steal votes on force them on the voter. Especially considering my double vote, he essentially had three votes on me with just his one. That could've been ugly. A redirect would've made sense though, that time Ansem got night killed? "Was killed by a friend" or whatever the wording was. The EloG might've put out a hit for DRTJR, and his redirection ability got Ansem killed. Wouldn't that be really funny/awesome? Hopefully I can get away with voting on him for the reasons everyone else is and if not that, the "he's not gonna get off my back with the votes" thing.
Edit 2: OSHIT, Q HAS VOTED!!!! Well, Smash is dead soon probably. Also; Q *HAS* to be an inmate. Never votes until someone who just claimed inmate came under fire, and voted on the guy leading the charge.
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Post by td260 on Sept 12, 2011 15:30:35 GMT -5
why is Q's vote in a different color?
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Post by relmitos on Sept 12, 2011 16:17:03 GMT -5
Well, it would appear that DRTJR is not, infact, lying. Smash is all of a sudden voting on himself for no real reason, and that looks suspiciously like what Avos did that day phase he hung. Looks like there's at least some truth behind what he says. Let's hope he doesn't force me to vote on myself.
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Post by td260 on Sept 12, 2011 17:12:08 GMT -5
Wtf DRTJR... I'm glad he has it, and not like Q or someone.
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Post by relmitos on Sept 12, 2011 19:47:18 GMT -5
Well, there is another possibility that I wouldn't rule out, but let's hope that's not the case. If DRTJR and Q are both inmates, it could be possible that Q told him to claim that and it actually is Q with the power. I wouldn't put it past him, honestly. I mean, think about it, we can't night kill Q, or do anything to Q over night. Look at what DRTJR has claimed his powers to be:
A) have someone vote for them self or B) randomly redirect some thing aimed at me, I just have to go the distance to win.
That would explain it. That, and DRTJR is saying a lot of things that are generally out of character for him and well, I kind of think that Q is feeding him things to say.
EDIT: Again, that probably explains what happened to Ansem as well. Everyone wants Q dead as they're in "the mafia", as Q is good at dismantling mafia's, and Ansem died by a friend. If someone REALLY attacked DRTJR that early on, I'd be kind of surprised actually.
EDIT 2: Aw hell, it occurs to me. So, if Q can vote steal and he's one of the last players alive, that makes him rather dangerous if we wait very long to lynch him. Suggestions on how to deal with this?
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Post by raya on Sept 13, 2011 12:23:41 GMT -5
And I'm absolutely sure you're in the Evil League of Evil. See, I can make baseless claims too. Oh Smash, you card. It sounds very much like Q to get DRTJR to claim his role; it was inevitable that DRTJR was going to hang today and there was no way anyone could have talked him out of it. If he claims Q's ability everyone assumes that ability is now gone, so Q will be unsuspected. If DRTJR flips inmate that should pretty much prove it. Lynching Q shouldn't be all that difficult, come to think of it. Assuming there's two other killing powers besides our own, there's been 6 opportunities for Q to have been targeted. Every faction save his own would want him dead, so I seriously doubt nobody save us tried to take him out. That means other factions out there know their kill got deflected, and if they're smart they'll realise Q's bluff as well. They should also realise the best way to deal with him is to lynch him, so a bandwagon may start from all the opposing actions against a common threat. Looking at the writeup though it's not obvious our kill on night 1 was deflected. This could mean other kills that happened were deflected too (gonna be hilarious if it turns out on night 1 every single kill was on Q). This would explain odd target choices such as Ansem and Fed.
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Post by relmitos on Sept 13, 2011 14:45:00 GMT -5
Yeah I'm pretty sure at this point, if he doesn't get night killed, Smash will help lynch Q.
I'm not going to be the first one to drop a vote on him though, as I'm afraid being the first one might end up attracting Q's ire. With the double vote and all, it's really important I don't end up voting on myself. Unless Q is dead positive that Smash is the last one he needs to kill to win, assuming the inmates only have to get the EloG killed to win.
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Post by td260 on Sept 13, 2011 19:17:15 GMT -5
Lets just see what DRTJR flips as, and make an assumption from there. Whatever he is, Q is protecting him pretty damn hard. Now, that could just be him aggressively attacking smash, but whenever people mention DRTJR he brings it back to smash...
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Post by raya on Sept 13, 2011 23:58:36 GMT -5
From the sounds of it Avalanche may have been the traitor in the Asylum, hence why Q knows about them intentions. After what's been happening Smash will likely help go for Q tomorrow. Smash needs to be taken down, and soon since he's rapidly becoming a huge threat. But since I can't be protected tonight I need to make the kill, since I may not live In which case kill Smash tomorrow if he makes it through the night. I think the ELoE is more dangerous than we've suspected. Smash is obviously the mastermind behind it. If he goes they should lose their momentum.
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Post by relmitos on Sept 14, 2011 0:44:22 GMT -5
I was rather planning on killing Surge tonight, hopefully hanging Q tomorrow, then killing Smash the next night. If it all goes down like that, I'll just have Minby hung, then maybe Weldar will just end the game for us since the rest aren't playing even though they're visiting the forum. At least Sonix! and TheTJ are.
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Post by relmitos on Sept 14, 2011 3:25:46 GMT -5
Alright, so, this isn't actually a bad thing. 3/4 of our team just CAN'T be night killed this night phase. Sounds like a win to me, especially since DF has been keeping a low profile. I doubt DF will end up as a target, unless it gets down to a random deflection off of Q or some other weird thing, like a team just wanting someone to attack. I'd have to think it would either be me, Td, or Raya though. Me and Td because we actually say things, and Raya just for being Raya.
Let's think about this. We can't do anything to Q, so he's out, I'm leery of attacking Surge with his weird power, Smash will probably help us hang Q so I see little point in trying to murk him. That really only leaves Minby as the only target, as he's the only one that actually posts that isn't with us, or one of the three mentioned above. Sure, I could have one of those "guy's that don't play" killed, but I see little point to that.
I'm just a tad worried about Minby being a bomb or something, but I'm thinking he's probably not, since everyone is a mafian of sorts and Weldar doesn't like mafia bombs. This game being a special case since everyone is a mafian, he might be ok with it. Be that as it may, I'm thinking it'll go down like this.
I'll be doctoring myself, and since we've already scanned Smash, Surge, can't scan Q, and I'm killing Minby, I want DF to scan Sonix! or maybe TheTJ, as I've seen both on the forums but, you know, not playing. I see little point in scanning Eisen and Sah. I'm leaning more towards scanning Sonix! though as I suspect he's the jailer more then TheTJ.
All in all, the two of them getting jailed probably is the best case scenario that we didn't see coming, unless, knock on wood, being unable to night kill Surge is gonna hurt us some how.
DF, seeing as your basically my only ally tonight, feel free to put in your two cents.
Shame, such a nice big wall is going to get almost no attention until next day phase. I'm sure Raya and Td will read this anyways, and maybe put some thought into it
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