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Post by relmitos on Sept 6, 2011 17:33:51 GMT -5
Well, honestly at this point it's either the mafia doc, the mafia role scanner, the mafia watcher, or the guy who scans as innocent.
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Post by td260 on Sept 6, 2011 17:53:21 GMT -5
then docblock me and I'll do it.
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Post by relmitos on Sept 6, 2011 17:59:32 GMT -5
Fine, fine
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Post by td260 on Sept 6, 2011 19:36:16 GMT -5
alrighty then. KILL SURGE
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Post by raya on Sept 7, 2011 10:43:36 GMT -5
Oh hey, I'm back.
What the hell happened? td, any message as to why your attack didn't go through? Also, why did nobody declare an action for DF?
I was allowed to send my jailer a message and asked them to PM me/drop a hint in the day phase. We'll see what happens.
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Post by darkfalco on Sept 7, 2011 13:34:39 GMT -5
actually i scanned q and got this: You tried to investigate Quaetam but for some reason instead found yourself at the abode of your friend Relmitos. You decided to investiage regardless and confirmed he was indeed Quaetam and a true member of the Corrupt Coalition. His powers did seem to be protective in nature but he also seems to hold some extra influence which enhances his voting power.
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Post by raya on Sept 7, 2011 14:00:00 GMT -5
Good choice DF! I think that confirms that Q is some kind of Teflon saucepan, deflecting things targeted at him. Or maybe Weldar greased him up, I dunno.
Also Relm, what's this about enhancing voting powers?
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Post by relmitos on Sept 7, 2011 14:43:23 GMT -5
Ah well, I was hoping to keep that under wraps mostly because I thought there was a traitor in our midst, and if there was, me being the mafia doc AND having extra voting power would've made me one of the more likely targets by this other mafia Ansem was in. But now that you know, there's no point in hiding it any longer. That and the traitor is dead.
As you all already know, I am the mafia doctor. What I've refrained from telling you up until now, is that my vote actually counts for 2 instead of one. That one time DRTJR was at one vote and I had two on me? I vote on DRTJR, all of a sudden DRTJR was in the lead and no one would be the wiser. They would all have assumed that it was a tie between me and DRTJR, it would've been beautiful. I could've played it off as that "ties will be left to fate" thing Weldar had, or that someone had a vote steal (although that would probably be a bad idea if you ask me.)
That aside, now that the night phase is over I'll tell you my predictions.
The first night phase, we had three night kills. Last night phase, we only had one. This leads me to suspect the following.
1.) Raya, your obviously a target. I think anyways, you were unable to be acted upon, and there was only one kill.
2.) Surgepox either is the doc, or got doc'd last night, as our kill didn't go through either. I suspect more that he IS the doc himself, because really, who would've thought it was a good idea to block him overnight? He was at odds with Smashbro and Avalanche last day phase, so they wouldn't. Whoever trusted them also probably wouldn't. Surge's vote on Eisen only got so much support, which is to say, not much. So I suspect he himself is the doctor.
3.) I believe our mysterious third kill is either a SK, or some special role that Weldar has crafted for this game and not a vig. Ansem, while being a mafian traitor and apparantly in two mafias as well, hasn't done anything to make himself look suspicious, and has infact tried to kill Raya while he had the chance to further his goals to make himself look better to the town. I don't believe that Ansem would be a Vig target. Our SK/special role is probably targetting the players that are less active then most.
4.) I do agree that something is up with Q. If you look back at the previous day phases, Q hasn't actually voted on anyone. Ever. That and he actively hasn't been hunting the mafia. I still don't like it, it would appear our only option would be to hang him. If we even TRIED though, we would all be in trouble because the sheep wouldn't like it. Smash is already suspecting me as it is, and I'm afraid that ONE line I wrote stating vote swaps happen, and the guy in question being Avos who just hung as a mafian, is gonna get me in trouble.
Thoughts? Opinions?
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Post by raya on Sept 9, 2011 14:19:55 GMT -5
Bad knews guys; Relm and I believe there's abilities out there that can read PMs. Originally I thought Weldar was just being a voyeur and wanted to giggle at everyone's scheming, but now I think there's a role or several that can see PMs, and that's why he wanted copies; to pass on to that player. No one has said they've been in communication with anyone, but be careful. Don't mention any of your teammates by name and watch you don't drop any hints as to your alignment.
I think we may need to kill Avalanche tonight. He's been implying he knows what my role is, and since I haven't recieved any offers to an alliance I'm guessing he knows I'm not a benevolent townie. Which leads me to...
1) I think you're right about me being a target, which is why I think Avalanche has taken a guess at my role. Last game he did threaten to kill me first, so I reckon he's on a side that has killing powers; they tried to kill me night 1 and failed due to protection, then tried again last night and failed because of jailing. He must assume I'm either the godfather (immune to non-lynches) or the doctor protecting myself. Which means I'm in a lot of danger if he has access to an unblockable kill or a bus driver.
2) That's a good theory; td isn't a good choice of target to roleblock. Unless it was our kill diverted onto Ansem (which I doubt) he was more than likely protected. Obviously Surge would know he was under threat and would have done it himself.
3) I'm leaning more towards special role, since Ansem knew his killer according to the fluff.
4) I think Q is an inmate, which I'll bring up in the thread.
I think td should kill Avalanche tonight, and in the meantime DF can scan Surge and confirm if he is the doctor or not. We may get lucky and have someone else killed him, otherwise if he *is* the doc I'll take him out the next night.
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Post by darkfalco on Sept 9, 2011 15:00:50 GMT -5
Ok....I'm thinking about kissing up to smash a bit...he tends to trust me more than raya and some of the others, mainly since I usually play follow the leader to get what I want and the whole lack of deception record haha. Maybe get him to talk to me a bit..what do you guys think?
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Post by relmitos on Sept 9, 2011 15:07:26 GMT -5
Well, if you do decide to take such a course of action and it's in PM's, be careful. As Raya said we suspect that there are people with roles out there that can read our PM's, or at least one. There's what Raya was saying about it, and as if to further confirm it, Weldar accidentally sent me a PM that was nothing but a quote of the PM I sent Raya. He obviously didn't mean to send it to me, so that can mean only one thing really.
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Post by raya on Sept 9, 2011 15:33:19 GMT -5
I wouldn't reccommend it DF. Smash is a pretty astute player and the slightest slip on your part he'll take advantage of. You can probably sheep him in the thread, but don't make it too obvious otherwise he'll rightly guess you're just trying to kiss up to him. Follow him but don't act like you trust him absolutely.
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Post by darkfalco on Sept 9, 2011 17:07:53 GMT -5
that was my thought...especially the not trusting absolutely. if he starts jumping on relm's case again i want the chance to bail and not vote him
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Post by raya on Sept 10, 2011 4:12:38 GMT -5
Relm's death would be very bad for all of us. Although I've managed to dodge the lynch he's the only thing keeping me alive at night. If he dies I'm pretty much gone the next night, which means half of the Coalition dead in a single day.
So, plans for tonight before I confirm it. Relm protects me, td kills Avalanche, DF watches Surge. Sounds like a plan?
Logic being I'm a target again from Av's side, killing Av removes a threat (and also helps bolster Relm's claims for innocence, since Av voted for him) and DF can confirm if Surge is the doc or not. Plus I believe Smash will be a target for kills tonight anyway, so that might save us a job.
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Post by relmitos on Sept 10, 2011 21:11:18 GMT -5
I like this plan for a multitude of reasons.
If Av is indeed the one gunning for Raya during the night, he must die tonight if we hope to keep Raya alive as I can't block her night after night. We got lucky that she got jailed when she did, as her getting jailed acted like a doc block when I couldn't block her. If Av really is gunning for Raya as we suspect and he dies, maybe she'll live longer.
I block you, check, Td kills Avalanche, check, DF watches Surge, check.
Hopefully Smash does bite it overnight. If you look at it, the player list becomes:
9. DRTJR 11. SurgePox 12. Minby 14. TheTJ 15. Fedaykin 17. Quaetam 18. Sonix 19. Sahrimnir 20. Eisenbeißer
I removed us from this list, as we don't have to kill ourselves. If Smash and Av do die tonight, that leaves the only "Power" players Raya and Q, and Q hasn't really been doing much of anything. The rest is a lot of sheep, and as it currently stands DRTJR is likely to hang anyways as he was deemed "likely mafian" for "defending" Viero who just flipped mafian. If Surge does scan doc, Raya night kills, and all we have to do is kill off enough sheep to hang Q.
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